In an off topic message, we see that something unusual is happening with prominent ministers of all backgrounds and front runner presidential candidate, Donald Trump (R).
What’s the real purpose behind these prominent ministers praying for Donald Trump?
Ted Cruz, Rick Santorum, and Mike Huckabee are outspoken in their faith in Christ.
Why didn’t they pray for their own?
Donald Trump has billions.
“Take heed and beware of covetousness. For a man’s life doesn’t consist in the abundance of the things he possess.”
There is very little doubt about this.
Preachers and money has always been a snare.
On another slant, this is in no way to be taken as a serious sign that God is endorsing Donald Trump. No man that has had so much marital problems and other situations is beyond the reach of God PROVIDED that they repent and place their full faith in the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation.
We must remember that God is always looking to save even the worst of sinners. With the exception of the unpardonable sin of blaspheming the Holy Spirit and apostasy, there is no sin too dark or too deep that the blood of Jesus can’t save, deliver, and set free. Yes, the angels are prepared to write his name in the Book of Life as the angels are prepared to write your name if you are not saved.
There is no sinner beyond the reach of God while they live on this side of eternity.
Sometimes we write people off too quickly as so far out of God’s reach to save that we become gatekeepers of the pearly gates. We blot out their names as if we are the scribes of God’s Book of life. Granted that all sinners, when they fail to repent, they must go to hell, where there is “weeping and gnashing of teeth, where their worm doesn’t die.” But as long as they are on this side of the land of the living, they are offered every opportunity to repent and place their full faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation.
I will say that we are the gatekeepers of truth. Truth must hit the preacher first before it hits the sinners. We must always stand for the right way of getting into the kingdom of heaven as our Lord Jesus commanded us. We must live and preach the right ways of the Lord, lest we become like Pharisees and Sadducees, perverting, twisting, and replacing the commands of God with the traditions of men.
Could it be that the Lord is giving Donald Trump another of many chances to repent and place his full faith and trust on the Lord Jesus Christ?
After reading this article, there is no mention of repentance and faith towards God from Donald Trump. But just because there is no mention of repentance, it doesn’t mean that someone didn’t try to minister salvation to him. But let’s just say, that perhaps no one was concerned enough to ask him about his salvation. They will have to answer to the Lord with Donald’s blood on their hands.
Since I wasn’t there, I cannot say that someone didn’t genuinely witness to Donald Trump, but if you have ever witnessed the gospel to someone, our initial mental attitude is in “apprehension mode.” When we get past that apprehensiveness, we go full throttle with the presentation of the gospel, pointing out their sin and getting them to a point of persuasion to accept Jesus as Lord.
We must remember that no one is beyond the reach of making Jesus Lord PROVIDED that they repent and place their full faith in the Lord Jesus Christ for salvation.
During a C-Span event, Donald Trump was asked if he ever asked God to forgive him. He was asked this same question twice because he skirted around the question the first time, touting his Presbyterian, church attendance, sermon listening background.
Much like what some of us do today when God has cornered us with a question that requires a “YES” or “NO” answer.
Mingling and hobnobbing with high profile denominational and non denominational ministers is not grounds for automatic entrance into heaven. It is only through the shed blood of Jesus that we enter. It is when we repent of sin and place our full faith and trust in the Lord Jesus Christ. It is when we obey the teaching of Jesus for the rest of our lives until we leave this life.
Since Donald Trump’s time of prayer with these leaders, we haven’t seen, at least to my knowledge, of Trump’s repentance and faith toward God through our Lord Jesus Christ.
We are reminded of what the Lord Jesus said regarding the rich young ruler.
Luke 18:24 “…How hard it is for those who have riches to enter the kingdom of God! For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” And those who heard it said, “Who then can be saved?” But He said, “The things which are impossible with men are possible with God.”
Just because it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God, it doesn’t mean that it is impossible. It is impossible when his life is over. Once you are through the portals of death, there is no return, there is no do over, and there is no second chance.
The other thing that we can determine if he did repent is the fruit afterwards.
Jesus said in Mathew 7:20 that “You shall know them by their fruit.”
If their heart hasn’t changed, it is a good indication that when you hear Trump after this prayer that there was no real change. Proof of being with Jesus is when the person acknowledges or admit their sin, repents of sin, and lives his life according to the teachings of Jesus for the rest of their lives.
Jesus said in John 3:7 “You must be born again.”
If Trump continues to cuss, lust after women, is still covetous, and refuse to walk in God’s way, this fruit is evil fruit, and it will not be hard to see that nothing has changed. Just because a group of pastors from all denominations and non denominations prayed for you is by no means God’s endorsement.
If they were praying for his salvation FIRST, then the next thing that should follow is Trump’s repentance of sin or a refusal to repent. The thing about politicians and rich people is that ego is always the impediment to humility. The works of men to be righteous are as filthy menstrual rags (see Isaiah 64:6).
To pray for him that he would get into high office, is more along the lines of 1 Timothy 2:1-3.
But make no mistake about it.
God is working on the heart of Donald Trump. For the Lord said, through Peter, “…not willing that any (this includes Trump) should perish but that all should come to repentance.”
Some of you will remember the blog that I wrote of an open letter rebuke to Kenneth Copeland, regarding Kenneth Copeland and the Catholic pope uniting under the false guise of Christian unity.
It’s more than doctrinal issues.
It’s heresy vs the truth.
Deception comes in all forms and Catholicism is another gospel that Paul declared to be cursed along with the messenger.
Since that meeting, James Robison, Kenneth Copeland and other evangelicals met with the pope, along with Tony Palmer.
This is stunning news about the motorcycle death of Tony Palmer.
Some will declare that God derailed this ecumenical move of joining the catholics together with the charismatics.
I will say that it doesn’t derail it. I will say that this death is very significant. To read into something without full knowledge of the intent is dangerous. Joining with catholicism is dangerous. Joining with almost any group that has questionable material is dangerous. Walking in deliberate error is dangerous. Walking in the truth and speaking the truth in love is safe.
It is important to remain focused on one thing and one thing only.
“…be even more diligent to make your call and election sure.” 2 Peter 1:10
Tony Palmer was not a catholic but an anglican bishop but something pulled on him to establish christian unity. Unfortunately, he turned towards the pope and the rest is history. For centuries, the system of catholicism has robbed many good people from walking in the true grace of God. As Paul said, “For by grace you are saved through faith and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God, not of works lest any man should boast.”
Catholicism demands works for salvation, preaches purgatory, baptizes infants into the Christian faith by sprinkling, prays to statues, honors Mary the mother of Jesus as the Queen of heaven and mediator to God the Father, and a host of many other questionable, and blatant errors of Scripture.
Catholicism has yet to address and denounce these doctrines in order to be considered as followers of Christ.
Until then, it’s important that we vehemently protest.
The works of Martin Luther, William Tyndale, and John Wycliffe, and others sounded the alarm to stand against the error embedded in Catholicism to deceive the people into believing that they must worship the church.
While the catholics will deny some or all of this, all you need to do is look closely over the centuries to see the differences between catholicism and protestantism. Ask yourselves about what these differences are and conclude that the differences are unmistakable and undeniable.
Nonetheless, Tony Palmer’s death is a blow to Kenneth Copeland and other ecumenical evangelicals.
The question should definitely be asked “Will this hinder the intent of “unity?”
In my view, there is no question that his death will spurn them on to complete the work.
Given the information about the history of catholicism and protestantism, I wouldn’t dare to continue to move away from the hope of the gospel just because we want a little unity with allegiance to questionable and blatant error. The conflict of truth and error is a real game because it has eternal implications. If man chooses the wrong over the right, it will cost him. To choose error over truth demands a complete suppression of the truth.
Tony Palmer’s death is significant. We pray for his family.
We must not enter into hyper emotionalism. Meaning that we dare not declare that a person is in heaven just because people die a tragic death.
Repentance and faith in Christ alone is the only way to get into the heavenly kingdom of the Son of His love.
Faith in any other institution is a sure ticket to eternal condemnation.
Let’s pay attention to walking in the truth of God’s Word and seek to be on the same page with God and the rightly divided Word of truth. The Holy Spirit knows how to unify the Body of Christ with people of “Like precious faith.”
But the Holy Spirit of truth will not unify the Body apart from the truth in the Word of God.
Below is the link to the Charisma article concerning Tony Palmer’s untimely death.
As promised, Kenneth Copeland and other evangelicals met with the pope.
Jude 4 and 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 is in full swing.
After all of the warnings and admonitions, it is a sad day.
The falling away, or defection from truth is happening before our eyes.
All for one goal.
To be unified in the Body of Christ.
Commonly called “ecumenism.
It’s defined as “worldwide or general in extent, influence, or application
a : of, relating to, or representing the whole of a body of churches
b : promoting or tending toward worldwide Christian unity or cooperation.”
How can the spirit of error agree with the Spirit of truth?
Is it possible to table error just to meet the needs of the poor, the outcast, and down trodden?
Humanity needs truth as well as humanitarian assistance BUT error cannot override truth. To suppress the truth to meet a humanitarian need is like giving people sustenance while walking them through the door to hell.
The error in catholicism is as plain as day, yet, regardless of the blatant error, they forge ahead to bring many together under one umbrella. The devil can be proud of his work to deceive the masses.
What is there to say?
We that name the name of Christ must depart from iniquity. We must hold the line and stay steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord. Is meeting with the pope a sin? Is joining in a meeting of evangelical leaders with the pope a sin?
To answer this question, you have to go back into the history of catholicism.
You have to read the history of the works of Martin Luther, John Wycliffe, and William Tyndale.
Why was their work necessary?
When you answer this question, then you have to come to some conclusion that something is not right.
When you see that there is a clear doctrinal difference, there is no question that catholicism is a religion that was designed to deceive the masses.
Couple this with evangelical beliefs and charismatic beliefs, and you can see that this is a concoction of epic proportions.
Catholicism must renounce many of its questionable heretical doctrines. To assume that they have done so has yet to be seen, let alone be unquestionably confirmed.
But we all know that such a renunciation of catholicism is not going to happen.
From here on out, we must hold fast to the confession of our faith without wavering. We must remain true to the Word of God. We must never deny the Lord Jesus.
People of God, when a defection of this magnitude is before us, the only thing left to do is to stand in the truth. Confront the false doctrine of our day takes courage, faith, and strength because those that are in agreement with them will have no seat to sit in when the music stops.
The works of Martin Luther, John Wycliffe, and William Tyndale has been trampled upon and we can safely say that the whore of Babylon is ready to swallow everything in her path. Her bed of fornication has enlarged itself.
If you want to go with them, I cannot stop you, and neither can the Lord.
But one thing is certain.
On judgment day, tares will be separated from the wheat. Goats from the sheep. The righteous from the unrighteous.
Below is the link of the full story.
Let us weep between the porch and the altar.
It is obvious that Kenneth Copeland is caught in a web.
The video of Tony Parker, and then the Pope is an unmistakeable attempt to join catholicism with protestants. But the response is rather interesting from KCM. I’m sure it was a close staffer and not KC himself, unless I’m mistaken.
The first post is from an individual that pointed out the breach.
★★★☆☆ Well I have to be honest and am sure this will be removed. I grew up watching Kenneth Copeland and always have respected him as a very anointed man of god. But in this dire time while prophecy is unfolding at an alarming pace and so many are being misled we must follow the Holy Spirit. I am wary to continue following a beloved man of God after watching him endorse the Pope in the misleading of believers that there can be a unity of all religions that is not under Jesus Christ. So I will continue to follow warily as the spirit leads and watch for more information.
This is the response from KCM.
Kenneth Copeland Ministries Hello Kris, thank you for sharing your thoughts. Brother Copeland did not endorse the pope or the Roman Catholic Church. He was simply asked to pray as a believer for him. In addition, I have attached a link to our blog about this matter for your review:
http://kennethcopelandministries.org/2014/02/watch-pope-francis-message-calling-for-unity-in-the-body-of-christ/#.U6QW_hbXnFJ God Bless You! – Team KCM
Watch Pope Francis’ Message Calling for Unity in the Body of Christ
On Jan. 21, 2014, Kenneth Copeland Ministries was blessed to receive a personal video message from Pope Francis. The attendees of KCM’s annual Ministers’ Conference.
It is clear in the video that there was no need Kenneth Copeland to outright say that “I endorse the pope and catholicism.”
To have Tony Parker preach at the Eagle’s Nest Church in Fort Worth, Texas, Copeland’s deliberate calculated response, and the viewing of the pope’s response, is a clear endorsement.
We must remember that the system of Catholicism is not Biblical. To stand shoulder to shoulder with the system of Catholicism is a clear violation of the Scripture. It is a declaration of treason to the Word of God. This is the problem with Catholicism.
Works versus Grace.
There is no question in our minds that the differences are there and to completely ignore them just to have a little “unity” is not what the Lord Jesus intended.
Major doctrinal differences exist and there is no reconciling of these differences unless the system concede to the Word of God given to us by the Holy Spirit in the work of Martin Luther, William Tyndale, and John Wycliffe and others.
Go back over the video of Tony Parker and you will see that there is no concessions from the Catholic system. The burden of concession was placed on Christians that believe that salvation is by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
It doesn’t take much for us to see that in an emotionally charged service, people will not wake up from such emotions to stick with the truth of God’s Word. That’s why Proverbs 14:15 stands true.
“The simple believes every word, but the prudent considers well his steps.”
The Message Bible says this verse as a paraphrase.
“The gullible believe anything they’re told; the prudent sift and weigh every word.”
And that’s the spirit of the charismatic circles and WOF (Word of Faith) circles. You could read the Word of God without prudence and considering well your steps and step into something that you can’t or refuse to wipe off. Hypnotized and mesmerized in a “spiritually“ (more like an emotionally) charged atmosphere, an unsuspecting believer will walk into a bear trap and ignore the pain after the trap snaps shut.
In the video, Kenneth Copeland did pray for the pope as requested but Kenneth Copeland prayed…………..in other tongues.
Let me take the time to address the use of tongues. I realize that there are believers that do not believe in the speaking with tongues, so please bear with me.
There is two ways to understand tongues.
1. Other tongues as in Acts 2:4.
2. The gift of tongues as in 1 Corinthians 12:10.
Other tongues is the personal prayer life of the believer that is initially filled with the Holy Spirit.
The gift of tongues is given by the Holy Spirit and requires the gift of interpretation (not translation of languages).
There are three categories of the gifts of the Spirit.
1. The Utterance Gifts or gifts that say something under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit.
a. Gift of Tongues.
b. Interpretation of Tongues.
c. Prophesy. (Edification, edification, comfort 1 Corinthians 14:3).
2. The Power Gifts or gifts that does something under the direction of the Holy Spirit.
a. The Gift of Faith.
b. The Working of Miracles.
c. Gifts of Healings.
3. The Revelation Gifts or gifts that uncover something under the direction of the Holy Spirit.
a. The Word of Wisdom (Regarding people places and things of the future).
b. The Word of Knowledge (Regarding people, places, and things of the past or present only).
c. Discerning of spirits (Regarding seeing things in the realm of the spirit-visions/dreams).
The tongues that Kenneth Copeland was using required Interpretation of tongues but it appears he was just praying in other tongues which he should have been praying to himself and unto God.
Nothing wrong with that except there is a place in Scripture that governs such use of tongues in a service or even in private with other believers.
Here is what Paul said about it.
1 Corinthians 14:6-14
“But now, brethren, if I come to you speaking with tongues, what shall I profit you unless I speak to you either by revelation, by knowledge, by prophesying, or by teaching? Even things without life, whether flute or harp, when they make a sound, unless they make a distinction in the sounds, how will it be known what is piped or played? For if the trumpet makes an uncertain sound, who will prepare for battle?
So likewise you, unless you utter by the tongue words easy to understand, how will it be known what is spoken? For you will be speaking into the air. There are, it may be, so many kinds of languages in the world, and none of them is without significance.
Therefore, if I do not know the meaning of the language, I shall be a foreigner to him who speaks, and he who speaks will be a foreigner to me. Even so you, since you are zealous for spiritual gifts, let it be for the edification of the church that you seek to excel.
Therefore let him who speaks in a tongue pray that he may interpret. For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my understanding is unfruitful.”
So just as Paul shared, it was never known what was spoken and there is much speaking into the air. In other words, without meaning, significance, or purpose. Just a lot of noise.
Since there was no understanding of what was prayed over the pope, at best we pray that common sense would prevail over this debacle.
If, after watching the video that you didn’t get a sense of being uncomfortable about how they went about this, perhaps you need to read the history on Catholicism.
I am not denying the fact that we all need prayer and that we are to pray.
Having said this, in looking at the response from KCM, it appears that there is a clear avoidance of the issue.
There was more to it than just praying for the pope……and KCM knows it, otherwise, there would be no need to have Tony Parker preach a message about Protestants coming back to Catholicism.
Tony Parker’s message is crucial to win the other KCM partners to accept Catholicism as a safe place to associate. This is nothing more than Babylon pulling in unsuspecting ministers and ministries to further dilute the power of the gospel by His grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus.
Just like the lead ant (scout) that goes, when he signals to the others that it is safe, the other ants will follow.
Then, at the end of the praying in tongues, Kenneth Copeland asks Tony Parker to video tape a message in response to the pope’s response.
Words to the effect that “We are prepared to meet with you for an audience with you, sir.”
Now, if there was no endorsement, why have an audience with the pope? When it comes to the system of catholicism, it goes crosswise of the Bible, and we know it.
Unless in that audience with the pope, Kenneth Copeland is prepared to communicate the unflinching position of God’s grace by faith, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, such a meeting will be viewed as a clear compromise of epic proportions.
So the FB response to a comment by KCM avoids the issue and is a clear deflection of the issue at hand.
As I’ve said in one blog…..“Direct questions requires direct answers.”
The further enveloping of charismatic Christians to surrender the protest and come under the system of the whore of Babylon is an unavoidable goal because of the end times.
We must also remember that the first charismatics were from the Catholics in the 1960’s.
The very elect is being deceived or we are seeing Jude 4 play out before our eyes.
How could this be resolved?
The resolution of this is very simple.
To bring you past information, here is a post from this blog posted by EXMinistries with G. Craige Lewis and Tetaun Moffett.